Comments on: FireWire R.I.P. http://www.mcelhearn.com/2005/02/27/firewire-rip/ Writings about more than just Macs, by Kirk McElhearn Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:06:22 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kirk http://www.mcelhearn.com/2005/02/27/firewire-rip/#comment-259 Kirk Tue, 01 Mar 2005 01:57:49 +0000 http://www.mcelhearn.com/wordpress/?p=112#comment-259 Good point... Do you know anyone who has actually bought the socks? What an idea... Good point…

Do you know anyone who has actually bought the socks? What an idea…

]]> By: lexicon5 http://www.mcelhearn.com/2005/02/27/firewire-rip/#comment-258 lexicon5 Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:19:26 +0000 http://www.mcelhearn.com/wordpress/?p=112#comment-258 Actually, FireWire is faster than USB 2.0 in practical use. The stated throughput of USB 2 is only burst and it never actually achieves that speed. A 2k file sent across USB 2 and FireWire will get there sooner on USB 2. Transfer of gigabytes of data is where FireWire wipes USB 2.0 out. It's due to the crappy USB way of error checking...there is so much overhead in USB data transfers it's a miracle that anything ever gets there. The fact that multiple FireWire devices can be daisy chained together and all devices in that chain have the full FireWire throughput capability bears out a substantial USB 2.0 weakness...bandwidth sharing. Plug in two USB 2 drives to the same hub and you just lost half. Look around the pro audio market..FireWire is far from dead and buried...in fact it is on the rise BECAUSE of the USB 2 deficiencies. No more than 8 channels of audio that is sample rate impaired... FireWire 400 can handle truckloads of discrete channels at extremely high sample/bit rates. The lack of a FireWire cable does not signal defeat at all...it merely caters to the less fortunate and keeps the deer in headlights look from crossing the faces of new iPod owners when they look at a FireWire cable.... Actually, FireWire is faster than USB 2.0 in practical use. The stated
throughput of USB 2 is only burst and it never actually achieves that speed. A
2k file sent across USB 2 and FireWire
will get there sooner on USB 2. Transfer of gigabytes of data is where FireWire
wipes USB 2.0 out. It’s due to the crappy USB way of error checking…there is
so much overhead in USB data transfers it’s a miracle that anything ever gets
there.
The fact that multiple FireWire devices can be daisy chained together and all
devices in that chain have the full FireWire throughput capability bears out a
substantial USB 2.0 weakness…bandwidth sharing. Plug in two USB 2 drives to
the same hub and you just lost half.

Look around the pro audio market..FireWire is far from dead and buried…in
fact it is on the rise BECAUSE of the USB 2 deficiencies. No more than 8
channels of audio that is sample rate impaired…
FireWire 400 can handle truckloads of discrete channels at extremely high
sample/bit rates.

The lack of a FireWire cable does not signal defeat at all…it merely caters to
the less fortunate and keeps the deer in headlights look from crossing the
faces of new iPod owners when they look at a FireWire cable….

]]> By: purpleshorts http://www.mcelhearn.com/2005/02/27/firewire-rip/#comment-257 purpleshorts Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:07:08 +0000 http://www.mcelhearn.com/wordpress/?p=112#comment-257 Pehaps Steve looked over and saw iPods accessories selling for about as much money as the pods themselves, and said: Hey, I want that money. Unbundle and accessorize. Hide some costs in add-on accessories. Sell socks, armbands, cables, anything that's not an integral part of the pod itself. Pehaps Steve looked over and saw iPods accessories selling for about as
much money as the pods themselves, and said: Hey, I want that money.
Unbundle and accessorize. Hide some costs in add-on accessories. Sell socks,
armbands, cables, anything that’s not an integral part of the pod itself.

]]> By: bmorisky http://www.mcelhearn.com/2005/02/27/firewire-rip/#comment-256 bmorisky Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:00:48 +0000 http://www.mcelhearn.com/wordpress/?p=112#comment-256 No way should Apple sell a Firewire version and a USB 2.0 problem, this is not a cost effective solution for Apple. Do you remember the Apple and Windows versions of iPod? Or colored iMacs? These set ups are inventory nightmares. K.I.S.S. Just sell a USB 2.0 model with the Firewire cord available. No way should Apple sell a Firewire version and a USB 2.0 problem, this is not a cost effective solution for Apple. Do you remember the Apple and Windows versions of iPod? Or colored iMacs? These set ups are inventory nightmares. K.I.S.S. Just sell a USB 2.0 model with the Firewire cord available.

]]> By: Kirk http://www.mcelhearn.com/2005/02/27/firewire-rip/#comment-255 Kirk Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:28:24 +0000 http://www.mcelhearn.com/wordpress/?p=112#comment-255 Actuallly, there is a way to get iPods to work on Windows 98, but not out of the box. You have to install some DLLs, but it will work. Actuallly, there is a way to get iPods to work on Windows 98, but not out of
the box. You have to install some DLLs, but it will work.

]]> By: genericwoods http://www.mcelhearn.com/2005/02/27/firewire-rip/#comment-254 genericwoods Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:39:00 +0000 http://www.mcelhearn.com/wordpress/?p=112#comment-254 Just a couple of notes: iPod's do not work on Windows 98. But your point is stil valid; when i got an iPod i needed to buy a USB 2.0 card for my machine. Secondly, I think John Gruber over at daringfireball makes an excellent point on this discusion, read at: http://daringfireball.net/2005/02/firewire_hysteria --- Take Back The Web Get Firefox! http://mozilla.org/products/firefox Just a couple of notes:
iPod’s do not work on Windows 98. But your point is stil valid; when i got an iPod i needed to buy a USB 2.0 card for my machine.
Secondly, I think John Gruber over at daringfireball makes an excellent point on this discusion, read at: http://daringfireball.net/2005/02/firewire_hysteria

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