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	<title>Comments on: Getting the Most out of Classical Music with iTunes and the iPod</title>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2006/09/25/getting-the-most-out-of-classical-music-with-itunes-and-the-ipod/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, to be precise, you can&#039;t do it with iTunes alone. But that&#039;s interesting to 
know. (However, since it doesn&#039;t matter any more, unless you really want to join 
long works...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, to be precise, you can&#8217;t do it with iTunes alone. But that&#8217;s interesting to<br />
know. (However, since it doesn&#8217;t matter any more, unless you really want to join<br />
long works&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: ebernet</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2006/09/25/getting-the-most-out-of-classical-music-with-itunes-and-the-ipod/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>ebernet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree - you can span multiple disks....
extract the files as AIFF, use toast to create a &quot;virtual: disc larger than one disk - 
just do a Save as Disc image
then rip from that virtual disk - if you mount it, it will show up in iTunes
I have done this for a bunch of live music CDs (moe., Grateful Dead, etc.) 
although that is not necessary anymore with gapless playback...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree &#8211; you can span multiple disks&#8230;.<br />
extract the files as AIFF, use toast to create a &quot;virtual: disc larger than one disk &#8211;<br />
just do a Save as Disc image<br />
then rip from that virtual disk &#8211; if you mount it, it will show up in iTunes<br />
I have done this for a bunch of live music CDs (moe., Grateful Dead, etc.)<br />
although that is not necessary anymore with gapless playback&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2006/09/25/getting-the-most-out-of-classical-music-with-itunes-and-the-ipod/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good example. You can&#039;t - you can join what&#039;s on the same disc only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good example. You can&#8217;t &#8211; you can join what&#8217;s on the same disc only.</p>
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		<title>By: jhumanski</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2006/09/25/getting-the-most-out-of-classical-music-with-itunes-and-the-ipod/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>jhumanski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may have missed it, but what about pieces that span multiple discs?  (For instance, Mahler&#039;s 3rd.)  How do you merge tracks in this case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have missed it, but what about pieces that span multiple discs?  (For instance, Mahler&#8217;s 3rd.)  How do you merge tracks in this case?</p>
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		<title>By: Michiel</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2006/09/25/getting-the-most-out-of-classical-music-with-itunes-and-the-ipod/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>Michiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 19:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kirk for the comments, always useful. I&#039;m also an avid iPod user (and also eclectic, from Zappa to Bach, Joy Division to Prokofiev, Miles Davis to ClÃƒÂ©ment Janequin, White Stripes to Schubert...).

One thing I can help people with, is that I&#039;ve made a standardised classical composer list, with the following &#039;syntax&#039;:
lastname, firstname(s) (birthyear-deathyear)

I now have a list of 387 composers (I have a lot of early music, that&#039;s why there are so many composers), from
Abel, Karl Friedrich (1723-1787)
to
Zanetti, Gasparo (fl.1625-1645)

but of course including people like
Bach, Johann Sebastian (1685-1750)
or
Schubert, Franz (1797-1828)

If you want to I can post the list here (but I&#039;m not sure that would be appreciated), otherwise mail me at mcarpentier@pandora.be.

Cheers --Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kirk for the comments, always useful. I&#8217;m also an avid iPod user (and also eclectic, from Zappa to Bach, Joy Division to Prokofiev, Miles Davis to ClÃƒÂ©ment Janequin, White Stripes to Schubert&#8230;).</p>
<p>One thing I can help people with, is that I&#8217;ve made a standardised classical composer list, with the following &#8216;syntax&#8217;:<br />
lastname, firstname(s) (birthyear-deathyear)</p>
<p>I now have a list of 387 composers (I have a lot of early music, that&#8217;s why there are so many composers), from<br />
Abel, Karl Friedrich (1723-1787)<br />
to<br />
Zanetti, Gasparo (fl.1625-1645)</p>
<p>but of course including people like<br />
Bach, Johann Sebastian (1685-1750)<br />
or<br />
Schubert, Franz (1797-1828)</p>
<p>If you want to I can post the list here (but I&#8217;m not sure that would be appreciated), otherwise mail me at <a href="mailto:mcarpentier@pandora.be">mcarpentier@pandora.be</a>.</p>
<p>Cheers &#8211;Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2006/09/25/getting-the-most-out-of-classical-music-with-itunes-and-the-ipod/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, for the Haydn, it takes a trained ear to spot the randomness. I have to 
admit, that was not the best example. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, for the Haydn, it takes a trained ear to spot the randomness. I have to<br />
admit, that was not the best example. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: apisanty</title>
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		<dc:creator>apisanty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 06:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll share emphatically the frustration with the iPod when trying to use it for classical music. All remedies are partial, potentially counterproductive, and will cause a lot of work with uncertain result. 

None have yet made my iPod alien to the suspicion of causing some very ugly (windows - but spare us all the &quot;you should by a Mac&quot;) blue screens. 

Re shuffling Haydn symphony tracks, do you actually notice the effect? is it truly so different than listening in order? ;-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll share emphatically the frustration with the iPod when trying to use it for classical music. All remedies are partial, potentially counterproductive, and will cause a lot of work with uncertain result. </p>
<p>None have yet made my iPod alien to the suspicion of causing some very ugly (windows &#8211; but spare us all the &quot;you should by a Mac&quot;) blue screens. </p>
<p>Re shuffling Haydn symphony tracks, do you actually notice the effect? is it truly so different than listening in order? ;-).</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a lot of very useful general info.- I too had been frustrated by the 
iPod organisation. This comment refers to some of the comments as well as 
to your 3 articles.

 I agree that it is important to get the compression right, and for my ears AAC 
at 192 k is about as good as the iPod can handle.

However this is nowhere near what the original CD can do. The problem is 
mainly that listening on an iPod is limited by the iPod DAC/preamplifier. If I 
play the Philips Zoltan Koczis Bartok compilation from the iPod through my 
reasonable Hi-Fi, it&#039;s not at all bad reproduction. However, put the disc in my 
Linn Genki, and there is a piano there. Similarly for the Quatuor Mozaiques 
playing Mozart- the presence just doesn&#039;t come through the iPod, whether 
using loudspeakers or a pair of Sennheiser 580s.

The iPod is great on holiday or on the move, but no way would I consider 
using it for serious listening, and anybody thinking of using one to feed into 
a good audio system should check out what this sounds like before going 
down the path of putting large collections on.



---
Bob L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a lot of very useful general info.- I too had been frustrated by the<br />
iPod organisation. This comment refers to some of the comments as well as<br />
to your 3 articles.</p>
<p> I agree that it is important to get the compression right, and for my ears AAC<br />
at 192 k is about as good as the iPod can handle.</p>
<p>However this is nowhere near what the original CD can do. The problem is<br />
mainly that listening on an iPod is limited by the iPod DAC/preamplifier. If I<br />
play the Philips Zoltan Koczis Bartok compilation from the iPod through my<br />
reasonable Hi-Fi, it&#8217;s not at all bad reproduction. However, put the disc in my<br />
Linn Genki, and there is a piano there. Similarly for the Quatuor Mozaiques<br />
playing Mozart- the presence just doesn&#8217;t come through the iPod, whether<br />
using loudspeakers or a pair of Sennheiser 580s.</p>
<p>The iPod is great on holiday or on the move, but no way would I consider<br />
using it for serious listening, and anybody thinking of using one to feed into<br />
a good audio system should check out what this sounds like before going<br />
down the path of putting large collections on.</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
Bob L</p>
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		<title>By: edwardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>edwardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I was greatly intrigued by your posting describing the custom CD&#039;s you have made for your granchildren. Especially the instrument evolutions and variations. Do you sell these? Would you consider burning one?  I am a music writer/teacher who has been unsuccessful in getting my son as jonzed about classical as I had hoped. This seems like an excellent approach.

-edwardo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I was greatly intrigued by your posting describing the custom CD&#8217;s you have made for your granchildren. Especially the instrument evolutions and variations. Do you sell these? Would you consider burning one?  I am a music writer/teacher who has been unsuccessful in getting my son as jonzed about classical as I had hoped. This seems like an excellent approach.</p>
<p>-edwardo</p>
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		<title>By: STaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>STaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need help, and don&#039;t know where to turn. It appears that you may have the experience &amp; expertise to help me:

In addition to a modest number of CD&#039;s, purchased over 15 years, I have a substantial, but OLD classical collection, of great music but medicore analog sound quality, on LP&#039;s and tapes. I don&#039;t like all of it, but I know which works and which performances I DO like. Where is the best place to find (just a limited number - don&#039;t want all the CD&#039;s) these ONLINE (iTunes store or similar), without the limitations of the Gracenote database, and then simply purchase downloadable digital classical music, one work at a time?

I would use good formats (Apple Lossless or similar), as I have an excellent music system from MERIDIAN (www.meridian-audio.com).

Indeed, when you describe the virtues of Apple Lossless, I&#039;m surprised that you don&#039;t also mention MLP (Meridian Lossless) ... it is the new standard for DVD-A and can do streaming; doesn&#039;t need the whole file (e.g. Apple Lossless), etc., among other advantages. Apple should have used it, but maybe they didn&#039;t want to deal with international standards (read: Japan, Inc. + a British audio company + Dolby, who has now bought the rights to MLP from Merdian), who knows?

I&#039;d be grateful for any advice regarding where I should go to find great classical works in downloadable form. Here&#039;s an example that GRACENOTE can&#039;t find: &quot;Mozart Symphony #12 in G, Prague Symphony Orchestra&quot;.

Many thanks!

/Steve Taylor; set505@comcast.net
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need help, and don&#8217;t know where to turn. It appears that you may have the experience &amp; expertise to help me:</p>
<p>In addition to a modest number of CD&#8217;s, purchased over 15 years, I have a substantial, but OLD classical collection, of great music but medicore analog sound quality, on LP&#8217;s and tapes. I don&#8217;t like all of it, but I know which works and which performances I DO like. Where is the best place to find (just a limited number &#8211; don&#8217;t want all the CD&#8217;s) these ONLINE (iTunes store or similar), without the limitations of the Gracenote database, and then simply purchase downloadable digital classical music, one work at a time?</p>
<p>I would use good formats (Apple Lossless or similar), as I have an excellent music system from MERIDIAN (www.meridian-audio.com).</p>
<p>Indeed, when you describe the virtues of Apple Lossless, I&#8217;m surprised that you don&#8217;t also mention MLP (Meridian Lossless) &#8230; it is the new standard for DVD-A and can do streaming; doesn&#8217;t need the whole file (e.g. Apple Lossless), etc., among other advantages. Apple should have used it, but maybe they didn&#8217;t want to deal with international standards (read: Japan, Inc. + a British audio company + Dolby, who has now bought the rights to MLP from Merdian), who knows?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be grateful for any advice regarding where I should go to find great classical works in downloadable form. Here&#8217;s an example that GRACENOTE can&#8217;t find: &quot;Mozart Symphony #12 in G, Prague Symphony Orchestra&quot;.</p>
<p>Many thanks!</p>
<p>/Steve Taylor; <a href="mailto:set505@comcast.net">set505@comcast.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob G:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This may be too late, but regarding your question about trimming MP3s to send to your sons, you might check out MP3 Trimmer.  Its sole purpose in life is to do exactly what you&#039;re looking for I think.  Basically, you open up the MP3 you&#039;d like to edit in the MP3 Trimmer application and splice out the section you want to keep.  Then the program saves the &quot;new&quot; MP3 as a separate file on your desktop (or wherever).  The nice thing about MP3 Trimmer is that it doesn&#039;t first expand your original MP3 in order to edit it, and then recompress the edited portion (and thus lowered the sound quality).  Instead, it simply edits the MP3 file directly.  It costs all of &#036;9 and you can find it here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20938&quot;&gt;http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20938&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best,&lt;br&gt;Glenn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob G:</p>
<p>This may be too late, but regarding your question about trimming MP3s to send to your sons, you might check out MP3 Trimmer.  Its sole purpose in life is to do exactly what you&#8217;re looking for I think.  Basically, you open up the MP3 you&#8217;d like to edit in the MP3 Trimmer application and splice out the section you want to keep.  Then the program saves the &#8220;new&#8221; MP3 as a separate file on your desktop (or wherever).  The nice thing about MP3 Trimmer is that it doesn&#8217;t first expand your original MP3 in order to edit it, and then recompress the edited portion (and thus lowered the sound quality).  Instead, it simply edits the MP3 file directly.  It costs all of &#36;9 and you can find it here: <a href="http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20938">http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20938</a></p>
<p>Best,<br />
Glenn</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Kirk, that was very helpful. I am new to iPod and having an incredibly hard time keeping certain pieces in order. When it&#039;s Lieder I don&#039;t mind my music list mixing the order up. But when it&#039;s the Johannes Passion it turns out that Jesus ends on the cross before the choir gets to point him out to Pilate. And that&#039;s after I name and rename the different tracks in a way that makes (orderly) sense to me. What to do? Thanks, Tamar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Kirk, that was very helpful. I am new to iPod and having an incredibly hard time keeping certain pieces in order. When it&#8217;s Lieder I don&#8217;t mind my music list mixing the order up. But when it&#8217;s the Johannes Passion it turns out that Jesus ends on the cross before the choir gets to point him out to Pilate. And that&#8217;s after I name and rename the different tracks in a way that makes (orderly) sense to me. What to do? Thanks, Tamar</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Beyda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Beyda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob G has probably forgotten more about Classical music than I&#039;ll ever 
know, but one tool he should be reminded about is AppleScript. 

iTunes is fully scriptable, Bob, but better than hacking around yourself are 
the downloadable scripts available from Doug&#039;s AppleScripts at

http://www.malcolmadams.com/itunes/index.php

iTunes has a menu bar option for AppleScripts called ScriptMenu, which 
can be installed as easily as creating a folder called Scripts in your users/ 
username / library/ itunes folder. 

Download and place whatever scripts you choose in this folder. The one in 
particular I thought you&#039;d find useful is &quot;Copy as MP3 from Start to Stop&quot;. 
This will allow you to edit out and save a portion of the selected file. Making 
an MP3 from an MP3 will cause fidelity to suffer a bit, but that isn&#039;t an issue 
in this case.

There are hundreds of scripts available - free- on the net, but Doug&#039;s site is 
the most helpful, comprehensive and educational one I&#039;ve come across. 

BTW, OS 9 users - iTunes 2.0.4 is also scriptable, and many of these 
scripts will work in Classic as well.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob G has probably forgotten more about Classical music than I&#8217;ll ever<br />
know, but one tool he should be reminded about is AppleScript. </p>
<p>iTunes is fully scriptable, Bob, but better than hacking around yourself are<br />
the downloadable scripts available from Doug&#8217;s AppleScripts at</p>
<p><a href="http://www.malcolmadams.com/itunes/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.malcolmadams.com/itunes/index.php</a></p>
<p>iTunes has a menu bar option for AppleScripts called ScriptMenu, which<br />
can be installed as easily as creating a folder called Scripts in your users/<br />
username / library/ itunes folder. </p>
<p>Download and place whatever scripts you choose in this folder. The one in<br />
particular I thought you&#8217;d find useful is &quot;Copy as MP3 from Start to Stop&quot;.<br />
This will allow you to edit out and save a portion of the selected file. Making<br />
an MP3 from an MP3 will cause fidelity to suffer a bit, but that isn&#8217;t an issue<br />
in this case.</p>
<p>There are hundreds of scripts available &#8211; free- on the net, but Doug&#8217;s site is<br />
the most helpful, comprehensive and educational one I&#8217;ve come across. </p>
<p>BTW, OS 9 users &#8211; iTunes 2.0.4 is also scriptable, and many of these<br />
scripts will work in Classic as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2004 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the advice, but i have already ripped about 20,000 tracks from my 
music collection and can&#039;t work with them as i had planned from my 120 Gig 
external &quot;all my music in one place&quot; drive. iTunes does not let me go back to 
join tracks without reburning or going back to the original CD (all of which I 
have given to my children, saving an astonishing amount of space and clutter 
and letting me indulge most musical whims without having to search through 
CDs that included many samplers, varied programs and  multiple composers 
and artists on one disk). 

My approach has created several new problems. 

One is how to back myself up without creating all the disks I wanted to get rid 
of. Even burning MP3s at 160  takes up a lot of space. It has, however,  
inspired many interesting opportunities to create custom combinations to 
introduce my grandchildren to aspects of music and its history that no 
existing disk does. For example, I have edited and narrated a two-disk MP3 (I 
have some PC-using grandchildren) set on the evolution of the Paganini 
Caprices from Locatelli to Andrew Lloyd Webber with excursions into various 
instruments and genres and comparisons with other efforts to explore the 
possibilities of instruments, like Bach&#039;s Well-Tempered Clavier, and the ways 
of constructing Variations, like Brahms&#039; and Rachmaninnoff&#039;s. Finding a good 
application in OS X for conveniently inserting my spoken comments between 
or into tracks has also been unsatisfying. I have also Made them copies of 
some of my favorite idiosyncratic collections, like 50 different 
interpretations of &quot;All the things you are&quot; or &quot;Body and Soul&quot; from the original 
performances through vastly different renditions on varied instruments, 
which brings out both aspects of the music and talents of the interpreters 
that are quite dramatic. Well, to each his own.

How to compact my collection as efficiently as possible is 
complicated by my desire to maintain the integrity of an original album when 
the same track is repeated on multiple recordings. I have found no easy way 
to use the same file to represent multiple iTunes tracks which are really the 
same music reorganized on different compilations. I have many comipilations 
of Opera excerpts ( I find it difficult to enjoy recitatives or plot lines when 
listening piecemeal during activities, and, as a singer, I often enjoy comparing 
multiple performances of an aria by different artists more than a single opera 
in toto. Some performances by the young Pavarotti, however, are far different 
than his recent ones, and identical performances are collected in differently 
named CD packages. Keeping performances both easily distinguishable and 
readily accessible  without destroying a record producer&#039;s posssible artistry in 
organizing a disk is difficult if not impossible in iTunes without keeping many 
duplicates of identical track files.

I have been frustrated in seeking efficient ways of keeping liner notes and 
information related to a piece or performance, including some scores or 
libretti, I have not found any convenient way of quickly noting in iTunes that I 
have the sheet music for a track in one of my many collections of &quot;Baritone 
Arias&quot; or &quot;Italian Art Songs&quot; let alone where exactly to find it. Ideally I&#039;d like to 
scan all that paper onto disk and call it up from iTunes with a click.

Finally, for the time being, I would love to figure out how to send pieces of 
miedium length to my relatives and friends who lack DSL more efficiently. I 
often hear a phrase or piece that i think someone will find interesting (two of 
my soons, e.g., are amateur composer-arrangers, and I often find myslef 
hearing the way someone else has worked out a musical challenge that they 
would find instructive). Trimming out, say, several five minute excerpts of  
pieces and attaching them to e-mail is very time consuming on both sides 
(and reminds me how far away they all live). Any suggestions? 

Bob G New York
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the advice, but i have already ripped about 20,000 tracks from my<br />
music collection and can&#8217;t work with them as i had planned from my 120 Gig<br />
external &quot;all my music in one place&quot; drive. iTunes does not let me go back to<br />
join tracks without reburning or going back to the original CD (all of which I<br />
have given to my children, saving an astonishing amount of space and clutter<br />
and letting me indulge most musical whims without having to search through<br />
CDs that included many samplers, varied programs and  multiple composers<br />
and artists on one disk). </p>
<p>My approach has created several new problems. </p>
<p>One is how to back myself up without creating all the disks I wanted to get rid<br />
of. Even burning MP3s at 160  takes up a lot of space. It has, however,<br />
inspired many interesting opportunities to create custom combinations to<br />
introduce my grandchildren to aspects of music and its history that no<br />
existing disk does. For example, I have edited and narrated a two-disk MP3 (I<br />
have some PC-using grandchildren) set on the evolution of the Paganini<br />
Caprices from Locatelli to Andrew Lloyd Webber with excursions into various<br />
instruments and genres and comparisons with other efforts to explore the<br />
possibilities of instruments, like Bach&#8217;s Well-Tempered Clavier, and the ways<br />
of constructing Variations, like Brahms&#8217; and Rachmaninnoff&#8217;s. Finding a good<br />
application in OS X for conveniently inserting my spoken comments between<br />
or into tracks has also been unsatisfying. I have also Made them copies of<br />
some of my favorite idiosyncratic collections, like 50 different<br />
interpretations of &quot;All the things you are&quot; or &quot;Body and Soul&quot; from the original<br />
performances through vastly different renditions on varied instruments,<br />
which brings out both aspects of the music and talents of the interpreters<br />
that are quite dramatic. Well, to each his own.</p>
<p>How to compact my collection as efficiently as possible is<br />
complicated by my desire to maintain the integrity of an original album when<br />
the same track is repeated on multiple recordings. I have found no easy way<br />
to use the same file to represent multiple iTunes tracks which are really the<br />
same music reorganized on different compilations. I have many comipilations<br />
of Opera excerpts ( I find it difficult to enjoy recitatives or plot lines when<br />
listening piecemeal during activities, and, as a singer, I often enjoy comparing<br />
multiple performances of an aria by different artists more than a single opera<br />
in toto. Some performances by the young Pavarotti, however, are far different<br />
than his recent ones, and identical performances are collected in differently<br />
named CD packages. Keeping performances both easily distinguishable and<br />
readily accessible  without destroying a record producer&#8217;s posssible artistry in<br />
organizing a disk is difficult if not impossible in iTunes without keeping many<br />
duplicates of identical track files.</p>
<p>I have been frustrated in seeking efficient ways of keeping liner notes and<br />
information related to a piece or performance, including some scores or<br />
libretti, I have not found any convenient way of quickly noting in iTunes that I<br />
have the sheet music for a track in one of my many collections of &quot;Baritone<br />
Arias&quot; or &quot;Italian Art Songs&quot; let alone where exactly to find it. Ideally I&#8217;d like to<br />
scan all that paper onto disk and call it up from iTunes with a click.</p>
<p>Finally, for the time being, I would love to figure out how to send pieces of<br />
miedium length to my relatives and friends who lack DSL more efficiently. I<br />
often hear a phrase or piece that i think someone will find interesting (two of<br />
my soons, e.g., are amateur composer-arrangers, and I often find myslef<br />
hearing the way someone else has worked out a musical challenge that they<br />
would find instructive). Trimming out, say, several five minute excerpts of<br />
pieces and attaching them to e-mail is very time consuming on both sides<br />
(and reminds me how far away they all live). Any suggestions? </p>
<p>Bob G New York</p>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not very high-quality, to be honest. If you want to use VBR MP3, I&#039;d 
suggest a minimum of 192 kbps. I use AAC, at 160 kbps.

Don&#039;t forget you can also use Apple lossless, which takes up more space, but 
is exactly the same quality as the original CD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not very high-quality, to be honest. If you want to use VBR MP3, I&#8217;d<br />
suggest a minimum of 192 kbps. I use AAC, at 160 kbps.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget you can also use Apple lossless, which takes up more space, but<br />
is exactly the same quality as the original CD.</p>
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