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	<title>Comments on: Crapware for Mac: A New iTunes Plug-In</title>
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	<description>Writings about more than just Macs, by Kirk McElhearn</description>
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		<title>By: thyx</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2008/12/11/crapware-for-mac-a-new-itunes-plug-in/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>thyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s getting interestinger: 
Stephen Pontes from Tuneup support contacted me. 

He wasn&#039;t aware that the devs actually (tried to) implement Sparkle as updater (he thought they rejeced the proposal). I managed to answer the question how well Tuneup worked in a really polite way â€“Â hard to be objective when your system doesn&#039;t manage a restart or any admin actions anymore.

And I did a little research: yes, of course Sparkle does not spread itself over system folders on its own. 


thyx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s getting interestinger:<br />
Stephen Pontes from Tuneup support contacted me. </p>
<p>He wasn&#8217;t aware that the devs actually (tried to) implement Sparkle as updater (he thought they rejeced the proposal). I managed to answer the question how well Tuneup worked in a really polite way â€“Â hard to be objective when your system doesn&#8217;t manage a restart or any admin actions anymore.</p>
<p>And I did a little research: yes, of course Sparkle does not spread itself over system folders on its own. </p>
<p>thyx</p>
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		<title>By: thyx</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2008/12/11/crapware-for-mac-a-new-itunes-plug-in/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>thyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; My grasp of Sparkle is that I won&#039;t function with apps spread over several 
folders anyway.

Actually *I* am able to function like that, but not sparkle ;-)
With &quot;apps&quot; I meant the files of an app. And with &quot;folders&quot; tuneup means 
&quot;forbidden realms&quot;.

Tuneup, please quote this passage: &quot;The fun thing after all is that the album 
art feature worked well&quot; â€¦ in two of five cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; My grasp of Sparkle is that I won&#8217;t function with apps spread over several<br />
folders anyway.</p>
<p>Actually *I* am able to function like that, but not sparkle ;-)<br />
With &quot;apps&quot; I meant the files of an app. And with &quot;folders&quot; tuneup means<br />
&quot;forbidden realms&quot;.</p>
<p>Tuneup, please quote this passage: &quot;The fun thing after all is that the album<br />
art feature worked well&quot; â€¦ in two of five cases.</p>
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		<title>By: thyx</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2008/12/11/crapware-for-mac-a-new-itunes-plug-in/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>thyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, you&#039;re right. I wondered about the modification dates for a moment, 
then I was just happy to get back to normal. I just checked the few files I 
could quickview, they look like default / dummy versions yet to be filled 
with some useful stuff, e.g. names of the app, etc.  
My grasp of Sparkle is that I won&#039;t function with apps spread over several 
folders anyway.

Tz, what a mess. At best it&#039;s a good opportunity to realize how well normal 
apps behave. I wasn&#039;t suspicious about the admin login because that&#039;s what 
apps need to install anyway if you don&#039;t use an admin account. 
Well, in retrospect it all started when I realized that the file with the app 
name wasn&#039;t the app but the installerâ€¦
On tuaw, my comment is still the last, I really wonder what caused that, 
perhaps some conflict. But I&#039;ve never those problems before. Soâ€¦

thyx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you&#8217;re right. I wondered about the modification dates for a moment,<br />
then I was just happy to get back to normal. I just checked the few files I<br />
could quickview, they look like default / dummy versions yet to be filled<br />
with some useful stuff, e.g. names of the app, etc.<br />
My grasp of Sparkle is that I won&#8217;t function with apps spread over several<br />
folders anyway.</p>
<p>Tz, what a mess. At best it&#8217;s a good opportunity to realize how well normal<br />
apps behave. I wasn&#8217;t suspicious about the admin login because that&#8217;s what<br />
apps need to install anyway if you don&#8217;t use an admin account.<br />
Well, in retrospect it all started when I realized that the file with the app<br />
name wasn&#8217;t the app but the installerâ€¦<br />
On tuaw, my comment is still the last, I really wonder what caused that,<br />
perhaps some conflict. But I&#8217;ve never those problems before. Soâ€¦</p>
<p>thyx</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2008/12/11/crapware-for-mac-a-new-itunes-plug-in/#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wondered about the Sparkle framework, but I checked my last clone (from 
before installing TuneUp) and I don&#039;t have one there. I don&#039;t know where it is 
installed, because it seems to work with different Sparkle-aware apps; I&#039;m 
guessing its in the apps themselves, rather than in /Library or elsewhere. Which 
makes sense, if you think about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondered about the Sparkle framework, but I checked my last clone (from<br />
before installing TuneUp) and I don&#8217;t have one there. I don&#8217;t know where it is<br />
installed, because it seems to work with different Sparkle-aware apps; I&#8217;m<br />
guessing its in the apps themselves, rather than in /Library or elsewhere. Which<br />
makes sense, if you think about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thyx</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2008/12/11/crapware-for-mac-a-new-itunes-plug-in/#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>thyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes. Well, still in the minutes you saved meâ€¦
Btw, it&#039;s now commented on MacUpdate. Next time I wait some hours before 
I install the new wonder program.
thyx

TuneUp 1.0
&quot;TuneUp.app&quot; at &quot;/Applications&quot; was installed.
&quot;TuneUp Visualizer.bundle&quot; at &quot;/Library/iTunes/iTunes Plug-ins&quot; was 
installed.
&quot;TuneUpMedia&quot; at &quot;/Library&quot; was installed.
&quot;TuneUpMediaPreferences&quot; at &quot;/Users/th/Library/Preferences&quot; was installed.
&quot;expat.framework&quot; at &quot;/Library/Frameworks&quot; was installed.
&quot;SharedMenusCocoa.framework&quot; at &quot;/Library/Frameworks&quot; was installed.
&quot;TuneUpDater.framework&quot; at &quot;/Library/Frameworks&quot; was installed.
&quot;Sparkle.framework&quot; at &quot;/Library/Frameworks&quot; was installed.
&quot;CHBrowserView.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libpcrecpp.a&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libgnsdk_musicid_file.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libgnsdk_sdkmanager.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libmusicid_osx.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libjson.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libpcre.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libjson.0.0.1.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libpcreposix.0.0.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libjson.la&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libpcre.a&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libpcre.0.0.1.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libjson.a&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libpcreposix.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libpcrecpp.lai&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libpcrecpp.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libjson.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libpcrecpp.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;libpcrecpp.0.0.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.
&quot;TuneUp Uninstaller.app&quot; at &quot;/Users/th/Library/Logs&quot; was installed.
Installation finished on 2008-12-11 19:40:45 +0100</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes. Well, still in the minutes you saved meâ€¦<br />
Btw, it&#8217;s now commented on MacUpdate. Next time I wait some hours before<br />
I install the new wonder program.<br />
thyx</p>
<p>TuneUp 1.0<br />
&quot;TuneUp.app&quot; at &quot;/Applications&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;TuneUp Visualizer.bundle&quot; at &quot;/Library/iTunes/iTunes Plug-ins&quot; was<br />
installed.<br />
&quot;TuneUpMedia&quot; at &quot;/Library&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;TuneUpMediaPreferences&quot; at &quot;/Users/th/Library/Preferences&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;expat.framework&quot; at &quot;/Library/Frameworks&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;SharedMenusCocoa.framework&quot; at &quot;/Library/Frameworks&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;TuneUpDater.framework&quot; at &quot;/Library/Frameworks&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;Sparkle.framework&quot; at &quot;/Library/Frameworks&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;CHBrowserView.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libpcrecpp.a&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libgnsdk_musicid_file.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libgnsdk_sdkmanager.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libmusicid_osx.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libjson.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libpcre.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libjson.0.0.1.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libpcreposix.0.0.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libjson.la&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libpcre.a&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libpcre.0.0.1.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libjson.a&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libpcreposix.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libpcrecpp.lai&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libpcrecpp.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libjson.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libpcrecpp.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;libpcrecpp.0.0.0.dylib&quot; at &quot;/usr/local/lib&quot; was installed.<br />
&quot;TuneUp Uninstaller.app&quot; at &quot;/Users/th/Library/Logs&quot; was installed.<br />
Installation finished on 2008-12-11 19:40:45 +0100</p>
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		<title>By: thyx</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2008/12/11/crapware-for-mac-a-new-itunes-plug-in/#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator>thyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, hi Kirk &amp; Tom,

you saved my dayâ€¦ (or at least some minutes)

I tried out Tuneup yesterday evening. Everything worked interestinglyâ€¦ 
After some time â€“Â this morning, Berlin â€“ I realized that I couldn&#039;t use my 
user login anymore, it just vanished without any chance to enter anything. I 
decided to reboot. Only then I realized that my login system was fâ€¦d up. I 
can&#039;t prove it.
Luckily I&#039;ve read your posts and had two backups at hand.

I removed most of the usr/local/â€¦ and /Library/ Frameworks stuff by hand 
and everything&#039;s fine now, again.

Btw, the deinstaller&#039;s option to deinstall the sparkle framework reminds of 
good old Win 95 days when I had the pleasure to uninstall crucial dlls with 
the help of deinstallersâ€¦

I can&#039;t prove it 100% â€“ and won&#039;t waste more time to make the issue 
repeatable or contact support â€“ but, yes, the 
Good to know that AppZapper and probably Hazel etc. aren&#039;t able to manage 
that. 

thyx

PS In case anyone else needs the full list of installed files I post it according 
to the log file. Luckily deleting the ones I could read on Kirk&#039;s screenshot 
was good enough.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, hi Kirk &amp; Tom,</p>
<p>you saved my dayâ€¦ (or at least some minutes)</p>
<p>I tried out Tuneup yesterday evening. Everything worked interestinglyâ€¦<br />
After some time â€“Â this morning, Berlin â€“ I realized that I couldn&#8217;t use my<br />
user login anymore, it just vanished without any chance to enter anything. I<br />
decided to reboot. Only then I realized that my login system was fâ€¦d up. I<br />
can&#8217;t prove it.<br />
Luckily I&#8217;ve read your posts and had two backups at hand.</p>
<p>I removed most of the usr/local/â€¦ and /Library/ Frameworks stuff by hand<br />
and everything&#8217;s fine now, again.</p>
<p>Btw, the deinstaller&#8217;s option to deinstall the sparkle framework reminds of<br />
good old Win 95 days when I had the pleasure to uninstall crucial dlls with<br />
the help of deinstallersâ€¦</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t prove it 100% â€“ and won&#8217;t waste more time to make the issue<br />
repeatable or contact support â€“ but, yes, the<br />
Good to know that AppZapper and probably Hazel etc. aren&#8217;t able to manage<br />
that. </p>
<p>thyx</p>
<p>PS In case anyone else needs the full list of installed files I post it according<br />
to the log file. Luckily deleting the ones I could read on Kirk&#8217;s screenshot<br />
was good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2008/12/11/crapware-for-mac-a-new-itunes-plug-in/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug&#039;s a friend of mine, and I&#039;ve written about his stuff often. (In fact, my next 
Playlist column talks about a great applet of his). I was more interested in 
TuneUp for the album art search, for the handful of albums I still don&#039;t have 
artwork for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug&#8217;s a friend of mine, and I&#8217;ve written about his stuff often. (In fact, my next<br />
Playlist column talks about a great applet of his). I was more interested in<br />
TuneUp for the album art search, for the handful of albums I still don&#8217;t have<br />
artwork for.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2008/12/11/crapware-for-mac-a-new-itunes-plug-in/#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing that out! What a total piece of crap to hid an installer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing that out! What a total piece of crap to hid an installer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: asmeurer</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2008/12/11/crapware-for-mac-a-new-itunes-plug-in/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>asmeurer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For tagging in iTunes, nothing beats the AppleScripts at &lt;a href=&quot;http://dougscripts.com/itunes/&quot;&gt;Doug&#039;s AppleScripts&lt;/a&gt; website.  They may not have an integrated interface like this app claimed to have (although most are quite easy to use), but the combined power of some of the scripts can save hours of tedious tag manipulation.  For example, the parser script allows you to apply regular expressions to tag data, giving you the ability to parse practically any kind of misconstrued data into your preferred format.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For tagging in iTunes, nothing beats the AppleScripts at <a href="http://dougscripts.com/itunes/">Doug&#8217;s AppleScripts</a> website.  They<br />
may not have an integrated interface like this app claimed to have (although<br />
most are quite easy to use), but the<br />
combined power of some of the scripts can save hours of tedious tag<br />
manipulation.  For example, the parser script allows you to apply regular<br />
expressions to tag data, giving you the ability to parse practically any kind of<br />
misconstrued data into your preferred format.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.mcelhearn.com/2008/12/11/crapware-for-mac-a-new-itunes-plug-in/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kirk,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This app is installing even more than you indicate.  See my write-up at &lt;a href=&quot;http://tomdale.net/2008/12/11/uninstalling-tuneup-for-the-mac/&quot;&gt;http://tomdale.net/2008/12/11/uninstalling-tuneup-for-the-mac/&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kirk,</p>
<p>This app is installing even more than you indicate.  See my write-up at <a href="http://tomdale.net/2008/12/11/uninstalling-tuneup-for-the-<br />
mac/"></a><a href="http://tomdale.net/2008/12/11/uninstalling-tuneup-for-the-" rel="nofollow">http://tomdale.net/2008/12/11/uninstalling-tuneup-for-the-</a><br />
mac/.</p>
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